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Hey everyone,

 

I am new to the community, looking very much forward to diving headfirst in the swimbait world. I am located on Long Island NY. Usually I drive upstate because the bass fishing is subpar on the island. However, I have caught bass up to 5.5lbs (not on swimbaits though). Anyway, a lot of our ponds/small lakes are glacial so they are bowl shaped with no real points/structure. In this case would you target obvious cover? Weedlines? I am trying to learn as much as possible since most of our places are shallow and grassy, and the deeper/clearer lakes usually do not have much structure conducive to swimbait fishing. 

 

I look forward to learning all I can about these baits!

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First off,welcome to the addiction of throwing big baits! I've been in this game for a while and I live in upstate NY and I haven't run into any other big bait slingers yet.One of the things I love about the game is the reaction from these senko slangers when I whip out a 9" slammer or a Deps 250 on my 8' LDC Xh and Conquest 400. Almost every time i get "what are you trying to catch Jaws? ..it never faiIs. Its all fun and jokes untill they see me slay a pig. I do pretty good for not having a decent boat,I only have a small jon boat which pretty much keeps me in the same small lakes that produce for me. Most of the time tho I'm bombing baits from shore,so as far as locations and techniques I keep it simple. Find the bait fish! Hit up the obvious places like weedlines and dropoffs. But most of the time I'm just banging out shorelines trying to find cover that predators would use like over hanging trees. As far as baits go just start out with a couple proven baits of each type and throw the hell out of em! A couple swimmers, a couple wakes, glides, and a couple crank downs. My biggest mistake starting off was buying wayyyy too many baits and not learning what they do and how to use them correctly. I have around $15k in baits, rods and reels and a $500 boat. Lol. I guess I never got that priority thing right. I would definitely get a Hardgill or Magnum Hardgill,Deps 160 175 250, Bullgill and 6" Bullshad, 9" Slammer, Baby wake or Wake Jr, Toxic wake n crank or Wade Hoggs and a Nez rat. There are millions of great baits out there but these are some of the ones that produce for me here in NY. In the lakes here perch and bluegill definitely make up majority of baitfish that big bass and pike hunt here so that's basically what patterns I use. Oh and up here plan on using a leader or you can kiss an expensive bait goodbye when you run into a big pike. I use 100# flouro but other pike guys only use wire (That's a whole other discussion) .. Hope this helps and go out and slay some pigs!post-20312-0-64923400-1508204937_thumb.jpg

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Nice to see another NY'er who's also a newbie to the big bait game looking to learn it all, I love this forum it fills up my free time during my break and lunch breaks during work and then some solid reading at night! I've just been laying low reading EVERY bit I can about the big bait world on here trying to soak in as much as I can buy I find myself turning back to read it again almost like a refresher or a reminder! I just started throwing a lot of Hudd Grass Minnows and Weedless Shads with some success and just starting to commit fully to throwing my 68's since I've built up some confidence with the Grass Minnows and Shads but I'm going into it not looking for a monster immediately, just gonna stay positive and grind it out and keep putting in the hours with the bait learning how to fish it properly. I fish some local ponds that are somewhat similar to what your facing with no structure but lots of nice weed edges and some very nice weed patches that are right in the edge where the water transitions from shallow to deep and that's where the majority of my swimbait fish have come from just slinging the bait out past the patch of weeds and slowly bringing it through them and stopping it once I feel it in the weeds, in case a bass was following it and once it sees it has stopped it will wanna inhale it quick before it swims away, guess you could call that "praying on the weak"? Another thing I've done that could also work for you is instead of casting it beyond the weeds and bringing it back towards you (to the bank) assuming you're fishing from the bank, is to position yourself to where your casting on the edge of the weedline and just dragging it or swimming it slowly along that weed edge or line in hopes a big girl is positioned right on the edge looking for that easy meal to swim by! Nobody around my area where I am really throws the big bait stuff at least to my knowledge at least, some guys have tried but have given due to not having enough patience but I'll gladly give up numbers per say or whatever you'd like to say or call it and catch that fat chunk cus once you get that hook up and land it, it makes all those countless skunked days worth it in the end for sure! Hey MillerDaPikeKiller (Jeff) I see you say you're from Upstate NY, where exactly are you at in Upstate NY are your further North of Albany, NY like out by Syracuse area? It gets confusing what is truly "Upstate NY" since so many people have different opinions of "Upstate NY" some consider Albany, NY to be Upstate and others consider anything North of Albany to be Upstate! Ben (LIBass) just toss em' and experiment and see what works man but definitely read everything you can on here! TONS OF KILLER HELPFUL INFO, Good luck though man maybe in the future we can get out there and chuck some big baits together and maybe slay a couple of fatties!

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indeed it is, that's why I asked just because I've ran into people who have different "upstate NY" boundary lines and then having to explain well technically "upstate" isn't until you hit the great Adirondacks! But much like you I consider Albany upstate as well even though the Adirondacks are maybe a hour drive away depending where you are in the capital region. That's pretty cool though that you're also an Albany guy tossing Big Baits!! I've found a BIG BAIT thrower that's actually local!! From what I've heard a lot of guys who toss the big baits actually go further North toward the Adirondacks just because the pressure isn't as bad as say Saratoga Lake and some of the other local lakes or smaller bodies of water like Ballston Lake, I'd love to hit up the Adirondacks though on a big bait journey finding some nice bodies of water up there to fish that has some solid fish, I'm sure there's some small ponds and such up there that have t been touch in years that probably hold some decent fish PLUS the scenery is just amazing just by itself. Where do you like fishing around here? idk if you've ever heard of Central Park in Schenectady but I'm on a quest over there looking for a solid giant out of there before it freezes over

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Hey guys, I figured I would just comment on this post rather than make a new one based on the same topic. Ben is a good friend of mine and he is the one who got me thinking about getting into throwing big baits. It's awesome to see that there are fellow New Yorkers in this game that are so willing to share information and tips so I thank you for that. I plan on becoming a very active member of this forum and to learn everything I can as fast as I can, Ben and I will be dedicating a lot of our time chasing after some true brutes! 

 

Tight lines,

 

Mark

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