flaswimbaiter Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not only did I lost one of my eyes, today while fighting a 5-6 pound bowfin, this (see pic) happened to my hook and splitring. I guess I am lucky that this was not a big bass and only a mudfish. I switched out the hooks from my 8†FS trout and it really didn’t affect the action, I actually caught two fish after the change out. I am little disappointed that a bait of this price is so easily damage. But on the flip side, I am catching the crap out of fish on it, unfortunately, they have all been small. Any advice to get the big followers to bite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willduhhbeast Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Ive been thinking about posting this. I also bent a hook out and lost something I never saw. The split ring appeared fine in my case. I think I replaced with st 36's which seemed a touch heavier than stock so it made the bait sink a tad quicker. The motion appears the same to me. It is quite disappointing for the price these baits are going for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimbaitsatLMV Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 St-36 hooks are WAY lighter than the stock hooks.... I have had 0 problems with the rings , but any hook will bend. Whether it's the gammies Butch fishes , or the st36 I fish , I've seen them all bend . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnbassbuster002 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Those stupid fish are hard on ish thats for sure. I have had them bend out big muskie hooks on baits before. Good to know though. Mine is just burning a hole in my pocket right now cuz I can fish it. Just had 8"s of snow fall back home and a projected 16-18" where I am at work... midwest is looking bleak right now for any sign of spring... lokkin more like decmber than April. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaswimbaiter Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Hooks bending I understand, this happened to me before with snook, but I have yet to have split rings fail on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAssassin49 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 I run owner lightwires, held up well and are really sticky which I love for the way the fish have bit it up to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathando23 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Upgrade to owner hyper wire split rings. And I upgraded to owner st 41 2/0. U spent 150 on the bait, can't hurt to spend 5 more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoedd Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 I believe the stock hook is a Owner st 41 (2x hook) 1/0 and Owner Hyperwires size 6. Deps seems to use Owner hardwear on their swimbaits. Had a catfish torque my hook hanger/ring and pop off at the boat, they done it to all my swimbaits. Haven't had any issues with largemouth using the stock rings and light wire round bend gammies or owner st 36. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
998tuan Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Seen that before. I can't explain the split ring I've seen aztrouteaters bait like this but I usually change out the hooks for the stx58. Nufo has also told me he's seen this. I'm not sure the split rings on the bait are owners are not?.?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willduhhbeast Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Did you guys see that post on the other site where "Not Allowed" showed a technique on how to get followers to commit on the deps 250? It mostly applies to those in a boat. He basically just picked the bait up out of the water as the fish and bait approached the boat, then dropped it around 5-10 in the direction the retrieve was headed, sort of like a fleeing baitfish. It make not be something we could use from the bank, but it's with trying at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaswimbaiter Posted April 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Did you guys see that post on the other site where "Not Allowed" showed a technique on how to get followers to commit on the deps 250? It mostly applies to those in a boat. He basically just picked the bait up out of the water as the fish and bait approached the boat, then dropped it around 5-10 in the direction the retrieve was headed, sort of like a fleeing baitfish. It make not be something we could use from the bank, but it's with trying at some point. I think there is something to this. I was walking a seawall yesterday and spotted too bass hunting/looking for something as if they lost sight of it. When I dropped my bait next to them they both attacked it immediately, I almost got two on one bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Dot Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 for me, regardless of price or who makes the bait - the first rule out of the box is to change out the rings and hooks. i assume this is not the case for everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDBEAD Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 for me, regardless of price or who makes the bait - the first rule out of the box is to change out the rings and hooks. i assume this is not the case for everyone? I didnt with the Slides and a bunch of other baits for fear of changing the intended action. If they look like decent hardware or I have paid a good bit for the bait, I usually let it alone assuming that they used quality material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Dot Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 I didnt with the Slides and a bunch of other baits for fear of changing the intended action. If they look like decent hardware or I have paid a good bit for the bait, I usually let it alone assuming that they used quality material. i guess what you can do then, is test with oem parts. learn the bait (hopefully without losing fish), and then upgrade the parts to 'proper' standards. that is what i have done with many baits of mine. * note: i have lost many fish due to 'human error'. that error being the lack of upgraded hooks or rings, or the lack of retying. now that i have removed those possible points of failure, it has drastically increased my ratio to landed fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDBEAD Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 I had a good one come unbuttoned yesterday on the 175 SS. Still trying to figure out what the issue was but now I'm concerned about the hook. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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