RMANZO

People get slammed on here all the time for different reasons..be it someone bought a bait and is flipping it for a rediculous amount, "he gets slammed"..some guy copies another guys "scale" pattern, and "he gets slammed"(to say it lightly)....but when a company puts out a lure that was originally $139 and now they put it back out and its more $$$, no one on here says chit about it...I know, you're gonna say supply and demand, or whatever other reasons im gonna get "slammed" for, but truth is "its bullchit"!! in real life,none of us like it when our own country bends us over on gas prices, or electricity,ect... but a foreign "bait" co.( nothing against anyone, just making a comparison) ups the price on something,just because "we" bought soooo many of their baits....just seems backwards..make a co. that much $$$ an you would think they would "throw" us a bone or something, not "give" us a bone and up the price........what do ya think? ready, set, go

Holy crap. Are you dumb, deaf, or blind? Serious question. Didn't someone say the ABT would be $175? That's exactly what Andrew charged. Couldn't get on the list? You mean either you don't know how to use email or you are a doucher who he didn't want to sell baits to? I'm not speaking for him, but it seems like you made no effort to get a bait. Everyone I know has one except me, and it's because I politely declined his offer to get on the list due to funding. You don't need to be superman to get baits. It is not changed enough to be legal, it is AN EXACT COPY, MOLDED OFF OF HIS BAIT. That is WRONG. after making this unbiased statement on what I felt about this, "swimbaitsatlmv" slammed me and said I was dumb,deaf,blind and a doucher..so I stayed out of it..well, i'm back I got my "ABT 12" GLIDE yesterday and had my buddy come over w/his hinckle...all I can say is "WOW"!!!! all of you guys who slammed abt, I need to ask a "REAL" question:::: have you held the abt?? have you seen it swim?? do you own a hinckle??? if your answer to all of these is "yes", and you don't feel like you owe the guy an apology, then as "swimbaitsatlmv" stated in his post,"you are dumb,blind, and a doucher(whatever in the funk that is) seriously though,,after holding both of th baits in my hand,there are some similiarities in the baits, but in no way is this a "MOLDED COPY"...a glide bait is a glide bait..what does everyone seem to think that a crank bait is a crankbait, a buzz is a buzz,a a-rig is a rig, etc, but when it comes to someone making a swimbait,"EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT"??? I am new to this forum, but I am not new to the bass fishing world....drama like this is funked up to say the least..to blast a guy just cuz one garage bait maker got wind that a "COPY" of his bait is being made, just isn't right..until you hold both baits and see the diference in the swim, how can you jump on this bashing ban wagon. some of the assassins on this post,syated they don't even own a hinckle.."WELL THEN HOW THE FUNK DO YOU KNOW"??? and "NONE OF THE ASSASSINS ON HERE, HAVE A ABT TO COMPARE IT TO", so I ask again, "HOW THE FUNK DO YOU KNOW"??? answer is, me being a "doucher" and all,"YOU DONT FUNKIN KNOW"!!!!! are you making the decision off of the pics you have seen??? you can see in those, the hinkle is a "TALLER and "BIGGER" bait...I will say, the scales are the same!!! but,so what, you have glides with no scales, and now there are glides with scales..and come on "SCALES ARE SCALES".....IF THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO HAVE SCALES ON YOUR BAIT, AND YOU WANT THE CALES TO LOOK LIKE "SCALES", YOU SHOULD PATTEN IT since I live on don pedro, we walked to my back yard and took the baits to the lake...."B-I-G DIFFERENCE"...THEY ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT SWIMS!!!! so in short, , all I care about is my health, wife, daughter, and being able to sling the big bait, and enjoy the awesome resource we have(we need rain bad up here), this kind of "assassination" based upon assumption, is too bad this is what pursuing a passion has come down to :(:( ps.....I now one thing, I now own an incredible swimming 12" glide, and I didn't even have to get on a waiting list (not yet)

Holy crap. Are you dumb, deaf, or blind? Serious question. Didn't someone say the ABT would be $175? That's exactly what Andrew charged. Couldn't get on the list? You mean either you don't know how to use email or you are a doucher who he didn't want to sell baits to? I'm not speaking for him, but it seems like you made no effort to get a bait. Everyone I know has one except me, and it's because I politely declined his offer to get on the list due to funding. You don't need to be superman to get baits. It is not changed enough to be legal, it is AN EXACT COPY, MOLDED OFF OF HIS BAIT. That is WRONG. not dumb,deaf,blind or a doucher...this was my opinion..to go off like that makes you look like all the above names u mentioned....I didn't just fkn make it up, I have tried to order before to no avail...and I refuse to pay an inflated price on flea bay....thats why I don't get into this bs drama..i give my opinion and get blasted......go figure....

im not taking sides here, I am just a bass guy that loves to throw big baits the problem is,,,,,,every big bait is too expensive, or the makers put out a run a couple times a year and by the time "normal people", like myself, hear about it, the maker has already sold him too his buddies, flippers, and then I have to go on a waiting list that never happens..i have been waiting a couple years for a couple of the big baits and I just want to fkn fish!!!!! so,,,,,,my choices have been to either,, 1) play the game w/the makers that come out of the closet to make baits once or twice a year(which hasn't happened for me yet).... or,, 2) pay double the price on flea bay...,or 3) hope and prey someone comes out w/a big bait I can actually afford and not piss the wife off when I buy it..most importantly a bait, "THAT A GUY LIKE ME CAN ACTUALLY ORDER AT ANY TIME"!!! also, there are enough differences in the baits that "legally" it is what it is....I don't think you would have a copy cat case.....just my opinion.....either way, I will be ordering an abt and putting it to use.....my friend who got one said, "THEY R SIIIIICK"

I live up here at pedro and have won a lot of money on the regular waiver...I got a shipment of the new 200 a couple months ago and caught numerous bass on them..a couple went over 10lbs.... at the bbt last month up here, my first cast of the morning I caught a 9lber...at around 2:15, before my 3pm weigh-in, I caught an 11lber....I had almost 32lbs and won the tourney...awesome baits!!!! I do weight my down w/3 suspend strips spread out on the bottom......for the money, 'NOTHING COMPARES"

Well lets sort this out, what is your definition of a slow sink? Because if its like a ROF 2-3 sorry but that just is not realistic. I think most people would rank them…. <5 super slow, 5-10 slow sink, >10 moderate/fast sink. Now the dudes that are fishing super skinny water, or grassy water can get this pretty skewed. Just like the dudes that regularly fish 35+ft. So where do you fall? What do you want in a slow sink? I know rago lures are far from consistant but I have seen a handful of glidiators and I would have no problem calling them slow sinks. a slow sink to me, is rof "5"... just like a slow sink waiver, a slow sink claw...nice and ssslllooowww

You think your going to just pop in here like this bitching? You need more than 4 posts for that buddy. You sound like a tourney guy lmao! What's up Mr Manzo? whats up Mormon??? you gonna hit up a few poe mans this summer????

got mine in the mail,,,"KILLER PAINT JOB"!!! but as far as being a "SLOW SINK", ""disappointed",, once again....I have bought probably 5 of the 9" and every single one I bought as a slow sink, fell like a rock..i had to "alter" them to make them what I was told they were, "a slow sink"...turned a few friends onto the bait and I even had to alter theirs...so, before I ordered this 11" I asked the guy who I ordered it from, is it a slow sink, cuz I've been down this road w/rago's baits before, and he said,"oh no, this is definitely a slow sink"!! so, the next day, while I am @ work, my wife calls and tells me my bait got here..i told her open it up and look @ it(which for some reason, she thinks its a no no to open up daddys baits when they come in the mail ) lol...anyway, she opened it and said "its beautiful", she got me all pumped up...I get home from work, walk down my dirt road to my pond(willow creek on don pedro), and cast this beauty out,,,,,,,"F&%$"!!!! same ol chit,,,sank like a rock sent an email to rago, and explained how I don't want to drill holes in such a pretty bait, and can I get a "real" slow sink"???? no response!!!!!pretty pissed, after spending all the $$$ on the 9" I bought and turning a lot of people up here @ pedro onto the baits also who bought, and now same ol' chit..... so that's were its @......

Thanx 4 the reply...ordered mine today gonna fling it a few trips,and see what happens....

has anyone thrown this 1 yet? I know on the 9", the bait sink rates were pretty inconsistent..is it better in the 11"? THANKS IN ADVANCE

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