Both lures are in new condition. The Mattlure was taken out of the package, still have the bag but the label/tag is gone. As for the CL8 floating trout 9 inches, Its brand new in the package has the Letter "F" for floating on the bottom indicating a floating model. For the Mattlure, its a light trout model 13". I was looking to get the smaller 10 inch version or trade for something different. The CL8 also looking to trade, not sure what I want PM me offers.