jachandl1989 Posted May 8, 2023 Report Share Posted May 8, 2023 Apologies if this is in the wrong forum but I am looking to have some extra tails molded for my Shimano Armajoint. Anyone have any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jachandl1989 Posted May 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Or if anyone could point me to a video on how to do it myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthefisherman Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Is the tail a soft plastic or more rigid? I would think a one or two piece silicone mold would work. Typically I carve my tail masters out of wood for rigidity, but if you can keep the tail straight during the mold process you shouldn’t have many issues. Alumulite makes a cool red food grade silicone that you can heat up and reuse. Might not work for pouring plastisol tails because of the heat, but I’ve always wanted to try it for semi soft urethane tails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jachandl1989 Posted May 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Thanks for the info! I am totally new to this but another person said they used silicone on this specific tail and since the tail is silicone it chemically molded together and ruined it. Going to mold the tail out of Flex X 200. I just figure out what to make the actual mold out of that won't ruin the original tail that I am replicating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthefisherman Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, jachandl1989 said: Thanks for the info! I am totally new to this but another person said they used silicone on this specific tail and since the tail is silicone it chemically molded together and ruined it. Going to mold the tail out of Flex X 200. I just figure out what to make the actual mold out of that won't ruin the original tail that I am replicating. Nice, I was going to suggest making a urethane mold if the tail was silicone. Sounds like you’re on the right track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jachandl1989 Posted May 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, danthefisherman said: Nice, I was going to suggest making a urethane mold if the tail was silicone. Sounds like you’re on the right track! Perfect! Now to find urethane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthefisherman Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 hours ago, jachandl1989 said: Perfect! Now to find urethane... My apologies, I misread and thought your plan was to use Flex series urethane from Alumilite to make the mold haha. I’ve actually never made a urethane mold, but I imagine it’s the same concept. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jachandl1989 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, danthefisherman said: My apologies, I misread and thought your plan was to use Flex series urethane from Alumilite to make the mold haha. I’ve actually never made a urethane mold, but I imagine it’s the same concept. Good luck! What should I do? I am so confused. The tail I want to duplicate is silicone. What should I pour around the tail to make my mold and what can I then pour into the mold to make my tails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthefisherman Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, jachandl1989 said: What should I do? I am so confused. The tail I want to duplicate is silicone. What should I pour around the tail to make my mold and what can I then pour into the mold to make my tails? Again, I’ve never done it before myself, but you can try making the mold out of urethane rubber. Use the same exact concept as making a silicone mold. This will allow you to pour silicone tails as the material will not stick to the urethane. Alternatively, you could try making a silicone mold and just make sure to spray the tail with a good coating of mold release before you pour the mold. You won’t be able to make silicone tails this way, but this will be just fine if you only plan to make plastisol tails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jachandl1989 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 10 hours ago, danthefisherman said: Again, I’ve never done it before myself, but you can try making the mold out of urethane rubber. Use the same exact concept as making a silicone mold. This will allow you to pour silicone tails as the material will not stick to the urethane. Alternatively, you could try making a silicone mold and just make sure to spray the tail with a good coating of mold release before you pour the mold. You won’t be able to make silicone tails this way, but this will be just fine if you only plan to make plastisol tails. Ok, I'll give it a shot if I get time this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you so much for all your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthefisherman Posted May 11, 2023 Report Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, jachandl1989 said: Ok, I'll give it a shot if I get time this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you so much for all your help! Any time! Happy building! jachandl1989 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_kayaker Posted May 13, 2023 Report Share Posted May 13, 2023 https://www.smooth-on.com/support/faq/94/ https://www.smooth-on.com/products/ease-release-200/ Smooth-on has a silicone on silicone mold release. I haven’t tried it but I was looking into doing a similar thing. jachandl1989 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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