motomania

- OOofff! Just missed 'em ............Yeah, anymore XL's to appear?

Sent you a PM - Right back atcha my man!

Since the thread is just bait porn; that HBC Wake Jr. ROCKS! .....stupid Facebook...............whoda thunk it? -

Nooooo Doug say it isn't so! JK. I admit, glad I didn't miss it, that's why we have guys like you and Wayne to keep us up to date! - I hear yah man, I'm a few days in; and it still stings. I don't do anything with it except ignore friend requests! ......EXCEPT from swimbait guys. I only sniff around Ben and Mickey/Rina's pages. That's the only reason I jumped on. - Funny thing is, I had a friend request (I guess that's what it's called? ) from my wife.....from 2009 sitting in there! - I'm under a name only guys here would recognize (Thanks for the idea Don!) That way goofballs from the past don't pester me.

Bill, most certainly not mine. They were posted on the 316 FB page. Just sharing the love. - Yup, on FB. I just took the FB plunge Bill. It sucks....... I buckled to the pressure, but I don't want to miss out on gems like that!

Like others said, that HBC white and Sissy would be VERY cool!

I'm seeing almost a chrome finish? or a highly reflective silver finish on those OG's?

Not so bad really. I used to think the same way. Was BSing with Colby on there last night. - GGGGGGgggggggrrrrrr ................damnit!. .................I've been holding out as long as I could with that damn Facebook. This will at least shut my wife up about it. - I did take the plunge and jumped on Twitter. Kinda cool to follow different personalities/companies and things...............how about it Mickey you getting on Facebook? Twitter? Ben?

Yeah, our last mail carrier did the same thing. Thank God we have a a new guy now who takes a little pride in his work. -Ali - That's exactly what it comes down to; a little pride in their work. Our regular carrier through the week is great; he takes the time and gives a darn. God love 'em!

- Good one Lucas! - Our stupid substitute mail carrier on the weekends is as lazy as they come. If I see a package is 'Out for Delivery', I have to watch out for her to come by, and intercept her at the mailbox. Otherwise, she won't get her deada$$ out of the dern truck. - I found out a few releases ago, I checked tracking abouts when the package should arrive; I see the ole 'out for delivery'. I'm busy inside with our 2 toddlers, but see the mail truck pull up on a Saturday, and think; "Cool, she'll be up to the door any minute." Dumb lady never gets out of the truck, throws our mail in the mailbox; and drives off?!!?!? - Minutes later I check tracking and it shows "Attempted Delivery, No Answer, Left Notification Card" (or some crap like that!?!? ) - No card in the mailbox, no nuttin'. Ends up her lazy butt just leaves it at the post office, or on the truck for our regular carrier to deliver Monday. GGggggggrrr!!!! Shame, shame.

Unmeasured? I didn't think it was any more pointed or snarky than the comment I responded to. As I said quite clearly, no need for panty wadding on anyone's part. I guess I'm going to have to learn to tread lightly around you girls . . . ; 0 P Yep, that helps. Moto is well known to be a stand-up guy around here, very positive reputation. The "sensei" comment was funny, not pointed or snarky as you called it. No need to tread lightly. Might be best to keep the yap shut entirely on this one. - Thanks for the kind words, and catching my humor Wayne! - Top,.............. my apologies if my humor was lost in there. Like I said, it was just a light-hearted comment; I didn't mean to offend anyone. No need to tread lightly around here; we can all take it. Maybe it was my mis-step for not adding the proper emoticons to show the humor in my statement. Since I'm aware, sarcasm and humor can be lost in a thread on the interwebs. - Again, I don't come here to stir drama or cause problems; just the opposite, this place is an escape for me; taking the place of the limited time I get on the water anymore; due to the hectic pace of work, boss, family, kids.............life in general. - I (and I would think others also?) for one am thankful I even have a tracking # to look at. We can all peek over at the Black Market and see numerous guys who missed out; and would love to have the dilemma of slow updates of a tracking number. - Again.........my apologies, and lets get back to talking about the fun stuff! (swimbaits that is! )

- That says to me quite a few lurkers, looking for hints to drop on bait releases? (just thinking out loud here; which we have proven can be dangerous! ) - For those that haven't posted, don't be shy; speak up!

I am aware of how tracking numbers work. A couple of people asked about the status of the order and I made a relevant post, as my shipping status had not changed in three days. No need for panty-wadding on anyone's part. - F' no Marbles! Not with that killer youtube link in your sig, that $hits too inspring. - No offense meant there Top; no one ever said your post was not relevant; in fact it was actually quite relevant.........just a tad impatient. My reply was just a little tongue and cheek commentary re:tracking numbers. Not sure why the unmeasured response? being familiar with tracking numbers, you know packages can show up at your door without ever showing activity. We're all excited to get our baits. Just have a little faith in coach Ellis; he'll get you in the game soon enough. - And as was once said by a familiar Dark Lord, "I find your lack of faith disturbing." .......it's all good my man. Anytime we have the luxury of being the lucky few to grab baits on a release; then watch a tracking number for it's approach........it's all DAMN good!

- You said it J! - Just deadstick that tracking # ya'll; and wait 'er out. It'll have some action soon enough!

My tracking info still just says "electronic notification submitted". I don't think my package has even been shipped yet. - Easy young grasshoppah'.........USPS tracking is not always in realtime. Sensei Eliis would never allow dissappointment into this dojo. Patience is a virtue.

- Brilliant Marbles...........brilliant. ...............Can this statement be made a sticky somewhere? - And as stated previously; there are lots of hints floating around the boards; just gotta put your time in and read. The opportunity is the same for everyone willing to put in the time and read around a bit.

- Uhhh.....not so fast......we had an Easter Sunday Wake Jr. release a while back.

I tried to seal up the cracked plastic around a hook hanger on a jerkbait, layered it on pretty thick. Still wiggles. - I thought about this too after the fact. I wonder if you took a small piece of plastic, salvaged from elsewhere on the bait and dropped it in the void, then goop in the glue?

Maybe not mythbusters, but holy $h!t, that's some serious time put into the glue. Awesomely (i know, not a word) done Doug! Killer reviews all the way around guys, crazy how much info came from a 1/2 oz bottle! Geoff - You're too kind Geoff, thanks for the kudos. But, you did a killer job yourself....love the pix! But, I wish I had the nerve to damage some more new baits; and a bit more time for the idea. It kinda came to me late. So I realize it's a bit inconclusive; and rather primitive too. But hey, it was worth a shot! - Cool pix there Wayne.......I have GOT to get to putting some gills on my soft baits. - TONS of great reviews out there guys. I've only briefly skimmed over them; but am eager to read them thoroughly when I have a bit more time. This was really a cool idea.

Please dont do it on your Iphone - No worries there my man. My head would explode trying that! - I got it posted up, and hope it posted correctly. - As you can see, WAY more hype behind it than what it delivers. Mythbusters, or Steven Spielberg I am NOT! - Sorry for the multiple youtube links, I'm not that familiar with youtube and was unsure how to post a link to my 'channel'. (as it is apprently called. )

Posted up guys. As you can see, WAY more hype behind it than what it delivers. Mythbusters, or Steven Spielberg I am NOT! - Sorry for the multiple youtube links, I'm not that familiar with youtube and was unsure how to post a link to my 'channel'. (as it is apprently called. )

-INSTRUCTIONS: Test the glue. ======================== When I received the glue; it arrived in a handy, fingernail polish style glass bottle, with a tightly sealing lid and small brush. An excellent size that stands up in a Plano 3700, and still allows the lid to close. The plastic glue itself has a light chemical smell; similar to fingernail polish. Nothing overpowering. The glass bottle should ensure long life of the product vs. other brands that used plastic bottles. The plastic bottles in my experience, caused any plastic mending type of product; to gel up over time. One nice property of the soft plastic glue; is it’s not actually a glue, in the traditional sense. It does not stick to the skin, and only appears to start a chemical reaction between the damaged plastic. - THE PLAN: ========= My thought process for this review was to try and establish some consistency or baseline of the strength of the soft plastic to be repaired; then damage 3 baits in the same area and measure the strength of the damaged area: post repair. - Using the resources available, my test is a worst case scenario with a damaged piece of the bait, actually torn away; but I thought it would be the most consistent way to test the strength of the glue. I felt tears around a hook eye or hook tip would be too inconsistent, and difficult to test. - -THE TOOLS: =========== 3 baits were used for the test; a 5" mission fish, little booger and a soft minnow. The little booger and soft minnow plastic feels a bit softer; vs. the mission fish; which was the reason for my selection. But, I could be wrong. - Using the 3:16 soft bait glue was simply a matter of brushing on the glue to the effected area; then keeping the pieces together for approximately 10 minutes to dry. If the pieces were matched up closely, this will result in a virtually seamless, cosmetic repair. Unlike other actual ‘adhesives’ this soft bait glue actually stays soft and flexible when dried; just like the soft plastic itself. (I did not take a video of swimming each bait before and after; as they swam flawlessly after the repair.) - I used a Berkley digital scale that measures in pounds and ounces; and would slowly apply pressure until the bait failed. The key was to slowly pull at a rate that allowed the scale to keep up with the pressure, for a relatively accurate measurement. And taking short videos of each run. For the sake of keeping the videos brief, I just used my hand to grip the tail and slowly pull, vs. hanging any sort of container to slowly apply weights to the tail. - I had to figure out a consistent way to hang the bait from the scale hook, preventing tears/stretching of the bait itself; which could lead to inaccurate results. So I took a paper clip, bent it in the shape of a 'U', with the tops of the 'U', also rolled under. Then I took some electrical tape and tightly wrapped the paper clip, to the top of the bait. - -THE TEST: =========== The video clips are just of each of the 3 baits; brand new, pulling off the tail, (which was the thinnest/weakest part of the bait) then the same 3 baits after they have been repaired, and the amount of weight needed to cause another failure. Anticipating that failure at the repair. - As a side note; all repairs were made following the instructions of applying one coat at the damaged area, then a 2nd coat to the outside. As opposed to letting the repair dry 10 minutes (per the bottle), I let the bait dry 15 minutes, in a climate controlled environment of 68 degrees Fahrenheit with 48 percent humidity, and at 410 feet above sea level; where the testing was conducted. - As I suspected, just above the paddle tail, being the thinnest part of the bait; was the consistent fail point. Although each of the baits tails, appeared to be of varying thickness they still failed at a similar point above the paddle. But, keep in mind, this thin area is a necessity of design; for the tail to move/swim properly with little effort. - My assumptions were that I would find a percentage of how weak the repaired area of the bait was, compared to the brand new bait. - Much to my surprise.........that was not always the case. - -THE RESULTS: ============== - The videos will be listed in order of filming: - -1 of 6 (incorrectly labeled 1 of 4 on the scale in the video) -- 5" mission fish (new)failed with approximately -- 3 pounds, 4 ounces of weight - 3:16 Mission Fish strength test(new)-1 of 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfgJvjdOobw - 2 of 6 – Soft Minnow (new)– failed with approximately 3 pounds, 15 ounces of weight - 3:16 Soft Minnow strength test(new)--2 of 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV2RQ4SLZCw - 3 of 6 – Little Booger (new)– failed with approximately 2 pounds, 3 ounces of weight - 3:16 Little Booger strength test(new)--3 of 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w3JOq-en20 - 4 of 6 – 5†Mission Fish (Repaired) – failed with approximately 2 pounds of weight (failed approximately an 1/8†an inch BELOW the repair) – 61% of original strength - 3:16 Mission Fish(Repaired)-4 of 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku7cmRd44d8 - 5 of 6 – Soft Minnow (Repaired) – failed with approximately 1 pound, 12 ounces of weight (also failed approximately 1/8†BELOW the repair) – 44% of original strength - 3:16 Soft Minnow(repaired)-5 of 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzWD-EL-L5w - 6 of 6 –Little Booger (Repaired) – failed with approximately 2 pounds even of weight (failed at the repair) – 85% of original strength - 3:16 Little Booger(repaired)-6 of 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOxJHOLNVV8 - -3:16 Mission Fish (bonus) – brief video, after I noticed the first repaired tail, did not fail at the repair - 3:16 Mission Fish(bonus) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piAgbd4m-oE - -A second, 3:16 Mission Fish (new), testing original strength of brand new bait - 3:16 Mission Fish Baseline (Bonus 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdyOZJ6cGyQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player - (PIX) Little Booger, post repair (on left) - Mission fish, after repair - Soft Minnow, post repair - CONCLUSION ============ - The above percentages do very greatly; and I realize numerous tests on more baits; with more accurate equipment would give better results. But, I think the observations made speak volumes of the product. - 2 of the 3 baits that were repaired, and re-tested, actually failed at a different, undamaged spot on the bait. Emphasizing the strength of the repair. And, the 3rd bait that failed at the repair; was 85% as strong as the bait was; when new. - Admittedly, I fully expected each bait to fail where they were repaired; and at a lesser weight than when they were new. What came as a surprise was that the repairs held strong for 2 of the 3 baits; and of the 2, the failure was at a visibly undamaged area of the bait. I attribute these 2 bait failures, post repair, to be due to unforeseen stress of the bait at the initial stressing/weight applied to the tail; which weakened the plastic. - Again, I do feel this test is a worst case scenario, to have a complete part of the bait torn away. Sadly, I’ve used the glue more frequently for hook eye holes and hook tip holes in the plastic, tearing or widening. Which the glue does a phenomenal job of repairing. And in this test; even with a main part of the bait being torn away; the glue excels wonderfully in repairing the bait back to useable condition. Maybe not perfect cosmetic condition, but close enough; and structurally it does an excellent job at getting the bait back together, and ready for action. - Only a drop or 2 of glue is needed for the type of structural repairs, exhibited in the above tests; and one bottle is sufficient for a countless number of repairs. Comparing the price of $4.99 a bottle for the soft plastic glue, to the number of baits that can be saved; every bottle is a steal at the price!

Like Micah said; pockets in a shirt are WAY cooler! - I'm in a stupid work meeting allday, and probably won't be able to post until later tonight.