Mattyboy45 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I threw off an 11 inch glideator today and I'm using 65lb braid. I'm pretty sure it was my knot but could've been the line. Anyways kinda depressed and would like to try something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIMBO Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I threw off an 11 inch glideator today and I'm using 65lb BRAIDI'm pretty sure it was my knot but could've been the line. Anyways kinda depressed and would like to try something different. A lot of people won't agree but be prepared for that with braid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffmeister Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 that sucks... im curious to hear what peoples say!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks19604 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I tie a uni knot but like swimbo said it happens with braid. Try P-kine cxx 20 or 25 lb test you wont cast off baits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingbear8 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I believe braid has its uses, but I don't think straight braid is ever the way to go, definitely use a leader for your braid rig. If you stick with braid use an alberto knot as the line to line knot, and personally I like the san diego jam knot to attach the bait. You should definitely try out some straight mono/flouro rigs though as well. I think there is an application for all the types of line, so figure out what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBassFishing Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 how about some 25lb PF or CXX instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Ramen Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 It's definitely easier to cast off a bait with braid since it has no streatch. As for knots, I use a Palomar with briad and the San Diego Jam with copoly. mofish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Power Swimbaits Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Any knot I tie with braid gets an extra overhand knot in the tag end to pull up against the regular knot to prevent slipping. Strongest knots are ones you can tie properly and have doubled line inside the eye of the hook. I don't have issues with 65lb or better braid and a rod that loads properly on the cast with a smooth fluid motion used to cast the bait. If you backlash midcast on a big bait you will throw off any bait no matter which line or knot you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colbypearson Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Like Matt Peters says- Tie the "Perfect" Palomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadinesmom Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 early on braid caused me a lot of issues, most my fault. i just avoid it now. bummer about the glideator, sorry man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy45 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Any knot I tie with braid gets an extra overhand knot in the tag end to pull up against the regular knot to prevent slipping. Strongest knots are ones you can tie properly and have doubled line inside the eye of the hook. I don't have issues with 65lb or better braid and a rod that loads properly on the cast with a smooth fluid motion used to cast the bait. If you backlash midcast on a big bait you will throw off any bait no matter which line or knot you use. Ya it did backlash about mid cast, it seems like it doesn't spool right sometimes. It's like it overlaps a tiny bit causing a tight spot. It wasn't spider webbed though. I had never had it happen before and even tried to snap it when it was snagged bad and never could. I like how compact the line is. I think throwing those big baits is gonna be on hold for a bit. I've considered the pf and cxx though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEOwen01 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I'm no pro but I fish straight 65# Power Pro using a double Palomar for my BAA, Rats, Punkers, TT, big wakes, and a couple other situations and never had a problem. I fish 25# cheap arse BigGame with a Palomar for 8-11oz baits and never had a problem. Keep it fresh and re-tie. For Hudds I use 20# Pline Ult. Fluorocarbon with a Palomar; however, I've casted off two or three while using an inadequate rod with a shitty cast. Hasn't happened again since switching up the rod I throw them on. Not saying it's the way to go for everyone but it's worked for me. I really think having the proper rod for the bait helps you get fluid motion casts and lowers the risk of sending your hard earned cash sailing untethered into the wind. I've experimented with leaders and other knots and have done alright but I stick with what I have confidence in. Just my $0.02. Sorry about your bait dude... best of luck figuring what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsessions Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I tie a San Diego Jam with every line type I use I fish straight braid in the summer and have never cast a bait off, that being said in the summer I'm not really fishing anything huge When you cast do it more sideways rather than overhead. Matt Allen has a vid on youtube about proper casting with big baits, I don't make it as complicated as he does but I do cast from the side like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonesaw Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 San Diego jam line to lure. Braid to leader use modified Albright/crazy Alberto. Braid is bad idea with big lures. I use braid/fluoro a lot for mission fish on lake I fish most due to crazy weeds an timber. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I tie a uni knot but like swimbo said it happens with braid. Try P-kine cxx 20 or 25 lb test you wont cast off baits I stopped using braid for myheavier swimbaits and switched to some mono havent looked back. I use braid for flipping and lighter swimbaits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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