Warsaw Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Hey guys looking for a couple of high end rods for the following applications: 2-5oz glide baits 6-12oz glide baits I was looking at the following rods, what is your opinion on these specifically if you have casted them and/or owned them only please? TS78X Baccarat: 7'8" Ex-heavy, med-fast, 20-40lb, 4-10oz TS79X Hunting Weapon: 7'9" XX-Heavy, regular taper, 20-40lb, 4-20oz, TS82X Tenchijin: 8'2" XX Heavy, regular taper, 25-45lb, 6-25oz I'm leaning to to the Baccarat and the Tenchijin, the Baccarat for the lighter applications and the Tenchijin for the heavier stuff. Or would a TS77X Casino be better for the lighter baits I mentioned? I really want the heavier rod to be able to throw from a Deps 250 to a Mother or bigger easily and not be under powered. Also, do you guys know the difference between the Baccarat and the King of Baccarat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassmann86 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 2-5oz I would to TS711X Blackjack and for the 6-12lbs the TS78X+ King of Baccarat over the Baccarart. The TS78X+ has a longer handle over the TS78X. When I had my TS78X+ I was able to toss a 8” rof 5 hudd to a hinkle trout. On your lighter setup if you said you would top out at 4oz I would have said the Cookai CK710EXHC. The blackjack can handle up to a Deps 250. LClements 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tpreston Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Also thinkin about the hunting weapon and tenchijin for a frenzy and ghost. Wondering if they’re over kill though and maybe the king of baccarat is good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dink whisperer Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 I've had a bunch of the TS destroyer lineup and the only one I ended up keeping was the Blackjack. It shines in the 2 - 6 oz range with treble hooks.{yes I know the ratings are off). If you skip to about the 18:45 mark in the video I linked he goes into the details of the baccarat and the king. He breaks down a lot of the Megabass lineup as well. https://youtu.be/lSJJnpMzjaE?feature=shared Tpreston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer27 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 On 1/27/2024 at 8:03 AM, Tpreston said: Also thinkin about the hunting weapon and tenchijin for a frenzy and ghost. Wondering if they’re over kill though and maybe the king of baccarat is good enough. Have you considered the LDC XXH? I am in a similar boat and I am thinking about the King and the LDC.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpreston Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, freelancer27 said: Have you considered the LDC XXH? I am in a similar boat and I am thinking about the King and the LDC.. I’m actually looking at the SI ldc now kinda leaning towards that. Save some cash over the TS too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer27 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Tpreston said: I’m actually looking at the SI ldc now kinda leaning towards that. Save some cash over the TS too Actually, I think you can get the King cheaper from Japan than the XXH LDC.. Just by a few bucks, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpreston Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, freelancer27 said: Actually, I think you can get the King cheaper from Japan than the XXH LDC.. Just by a few bucks, but still. You might be right. Something about the LDC is just drawing me in though lol freelancer27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassmann86 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, Tpreston said: I’m actually looking at the SI ldc now kinda leaning towards that. Save some cash over the TS too That’s a good choice. I would only lean towards the SI because of the length. I felt the king and 7’8” is a little short. Tpreston and freelancer27 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer27 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 Does anybody have weights on the XXH LDC SI and the King of Baccarat? Also, anybody know what the action of the XXH LDC is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassmann86 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, freelancer27 said: Does anybody have weights on the XXH LDC SI and the King of Baccarat? Also, anybody know what the action of the XXH LDC is? I can tell you this the LDC is probably going to be a little lighter. The King is 9.7oz for a 7’8” rod. To put it in perspective the Valkyrie World Expedition VKC-80XXH-4 8’ 4pc glass composite rod which is pretty much a 8’ version of the king action and power wise comes in at 9.5oz Edited January 29 by Bassmann86 freelancer27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsaw Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 15 minutes ago, freelancer27 said: Does anybody have weights on the XXH LDC SI and the King of Baccarat? Also, anybody know what the action of the XXH LDC is? I have the latest LDC XXH and I really really like it. It's pretty parabolic and casts incredibly smooth, like the smoothest casting rod I own. Not sure why that is but it is. However, IMO it's not truly an XXH rod, it feels amazing with a Hinkle Shad 5oz bait, but if I throw the 86 Baits Andromeda 6.2oz bait, it feels slightly over taxed, it throws it but it's at the max of it's range IMO. freelancer27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer27 Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Warsaw said: I have the latest LDC XXH and I really really like it. It's pretty parabolic and casts incredibly smooth, like the smoothest casting rod I own. Not sure why that is but it is. However, IMO it's not truly an XXH rod, it feels amazing with a Hinkle Shad 5oz bait, but if I throw the 86 Baits Andromeda 6.2oz bait, it feels slightly over taxed, it throws it but it's at the max of it's range IMO. Thanks for jumping in! VERY interesting to hear you say that they XXH would be overwhelmed with a 6.5oz+ bait!! I am considering the rod for a Deps 250 rod mainly, but would also would like something heavier (Hinkle trout, 10" Mattlures Hammertail). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LureFlyingAcrossThePond Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 LDC workshop XXH tossed my andromeda to my 11 Hiro trout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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