Zealandhunter Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I need help with a decision. I am going to get either the dobyns champion XP or just the dobyns champion Ultra Mag. I dont know what the difference is between the XP or not. Is there any major difference between the two, is one better than the other for big baits? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thastickybandit Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 xp has Fuji guide where the champion has kigan guides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealandhunter Posted December 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 xp has Fuji guide where the champion has kigan guides is that all? and which are better haha i dont know much about guides and rod components Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkH024 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Get the Xp. Its the newer updated line. As stated the guides are different. The old Kigan guides have had a number of insert problems and they were replacing them left and right. I wouldnt hesitate to take the regular model at discount though. All my kigan guides are holding up fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealandhunter Posted December 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 ok thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thastickybandit Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I had the inserts bust out on my 867 and have since then swapped all my champions for the xp's I prefer the fujis. bassfiend72 and MA Frog Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETBA Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I've had both, and would highly recommend the XP's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campobassmaster Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I got a 908 xp and haven't fished it yet but the rods I have with fuji guides are great. I heard the normal champion guides "squeak/squel?" Like everything sounds like braid through the guides? I'm not too sure about that and I doubt it affects anything but you can still never go wrong with a dobyns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkH024 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I got a 908 xp and haven't fished it yet but the rods I have with fuji guides are great. I heard the normal champion guides "squeak/squel?" Like everything sounds like braid through the guides? I'm not too sure about that and I doubt it affects anything but you can still never go wrong with a dobyns. Just curious, where do you "hear" all these things you write about? Rogervang, hookedonbigbaits, Darth Baiter and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YELOSUB Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I have several Dobyns Champions and have never had an issue with the guides...Maybe I'm just lucky... MarkH024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R8R Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Just curious, where do you "hear" all these things you write about? I will take a guess, he reads them here and other sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkH024 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I will take a guess, he reads them here and other sites. I have been reading this site a lot longer, as well as others. I have been fishing Dobyns for a few years now. I have never heard of the guides being squeaky or seen anyone post that. I'm sure there's a chance I've overlooked those statements, after all it is the internet. I am completely aware of the Kigan issue with inserts falling out. None of mine have done that to this day. danthefisherman and MA Frog Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthefisherman Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I have been reading this site a lot longer, as well as others. I have been fishing Dobyns for a few years now. I have never heard of the guides being squeaky or seen anyone post that. I'm sure there's a chance I've overlooked those statements, after all it is the internet. I am completely aware of the Kigan issue with inserts falling out. None of mine have done that to this day. Mark, I may be wrong but I believe Jack is talking about a thread on the Dobyns 908 XP started awhile back by Jesse (mossypumpkin). http://swimbaitunderground.com/forums/index.php?/topic/35140-dobyns-908-info/page-2 There is a little bit of discussion on the second page about the fuji guides being "loud" but I only remember this because I was interested in that particular model myself lol. Hope that helps! To address the original topic, yes I think I would go with the XP line after hearing what everyone has to say about them. I've never owned a Dobyns rod before (very soon though!), but from what it sounds like you can't go wrong either way. I guess it's just personal preference. Tackle warehouse has the original champions on sale if you're interested. MarkH024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Dot Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Dobyns is a great choice, and I believe they have made sound decisions to benefit us all. They moved away from the champion series to the champion xp series to better serve their customer and their very loyal customers. I know this may sound biased, but before all these manufactures existed I tried every rod out there. I was never happy. My buddy introduced me to Dobyns and I never looked back. Why fix whats not broken is my motto. I have been a loyal Dobyns angler for over 12 years now. All my rods are champion series, and slowly changing them to the champion xp series. I have their entire line of swimbait rods dating back to the gen1 series, along with a couple of their frog rods and beefy spinning rods. I have had over 25 champion series rods, and only 2 had issues with the guide. 1 was user error - I stepped on it when it was on the deck of the boat. Do yourself a favor and go the xp series unless you are buying 2 champion series rods. Once you break a guide, you may be down a rod. I had the same experience. Hope this helps! * FYI they also changed blank manufactures to better serve their customers (who remembers that?) Edited December 9, 2016 by T Dot MarkH024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campobassmaster Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 I asked a question on facebook comparing the xp908 to the normal 908 and a guy replied to it on there saying they were loud and kind of squeaky. I still wouldn't hesitate to get either, I love the 2 dobyns I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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