T Dot Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Hi Everyone I am looking for spinning setup to throw 1oz - 2.5oz topwater or slightly subsurface baits. This is something I will be carrying on the boat for people who dont usually fish (mom & dad, brothers...), but want the same type of rush similar to throwing a bigger swimbait. I havent looked at spinning reels, but i need something with ample drag (preferably Shimano) and that can possibly handle 12-14lbs mono or 20-40lbs braid. Any help in this department would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance -louie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Ramen Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Honestly, I think you'd be better off putting a decent spincasting reel (maybe one of the better Abus) on a medium swimbait rod. No harder to use than a Barbie pole. Just put some decent 20# mono on it and let them go at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Addict Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Honestly, I think you'd be better off putting a decent spincasting reel (maybe one of the better Abus) on a medium swimbait rod. No harder to use than a Barbie pole. Just put some decent 20# mono on it and let them go at it. why, most of them are junk? They make spinning gear that can handle swimbaits, look at 4000 size reels and pay attention to the blank ratings to make sure they can handle what you are going to be using it for. Most guys around me still fish with spinning gear while fishing salt, they cast heavy plugs perfectly and a mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlant Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 why, most of them are junk? They make spinning gear that can handle swimbaits, look at 4000 size reels and pay attention to the blank ratings to make sure they can handle what you are going to be using it for. Most guys around me still fish with spinning gear while fishing salt, they cast heavy plugs perfectly and a mile. The point was for inexperienced fisherman...and cost probably...mostly meaning that spinning reels are fairly fool proof... basskickinrednick, SD032 and JeremyW 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA Frog Man Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 They make a 5000 size Sedona now that would be cheap. They also make saltwater grade pushbutton that come loaded with higher pound test mono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Ramen Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) why, most of them are junk? They make spinning gear that can handle swimbaits, look at 4000 size reels and pay attention to the blank ratings to make sure they can handle what you are going to be using it for. Most guys around me still fish with spinning gear while fishing salt, they cast heavy plugs perfectly and a mile. "Most are junk", that means some of them aren't, right? I know people use spinning reels to surf cast. But, I also see guys throwing heavy rigs and catching big flatheads on spincasters. Clearly, they can handle it too. And while a spinning reel is fairly easy to use, it's not as easy to use as a spincaster. I know there are spinning set-ups that can throw a heavy bait, but if I were getting a rod & reel specifically for someone who doesn't fish (or doesn't fish much) to use, a spincaster is the obvious choice. Edited December 16, 2015 by Top Ramen JeremyW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volfan Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 You're going to have better choices of better rods for swimbaits with bait casting tackle, BUT, a good spincasting reel that will hold enough appropriate line is going to cost you as much as a decent spinning reel, and probably not be as functional. The Ugly Stick Tiger Lite rods have a pretty good following for this type of thing, or you could look at some of the XH or Musky rods of some of the major box stores, or a lighter saltwater rod. I have an LL Bean saltwater rod/spinning reel that was $200 and handles what you describe with ease. I also have an LDC spinning rod with a Pflueger Supreme XT that handles it much better. I would use 30 lb braid if you go spinning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Dot Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 While all comments are definitely valid, this one threw me a curve ball: Honestly, I think you'd be better off putting a decent spincasting reel (maybe one of the better Abus) on a medium swimbait rod. No harder to use than a Barbie pole. Just put some decent 20# mono on it and let them go at it. It is not something I even thought about, but it opens up doors. With a spincast reel I can use existing rods I have in my lineup - Dobyns 736C (frog rod). I often use this as my travel swimbait rod, especially when there is little to no cargo room. Back on topic - I still would like to pickup a beefy spinning setup and it seems a Shimano Sedona is perfect. However, I am noticing that most spinning rods are around 7ft. I cannot find a decent one around 7'6 that has the capability of throwing a 1.5oz bait. I am only looking at TWH right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA Frog Man Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 If your looking for a spinning rod around that length you'll have to look at a light inshore rod. Should be pretty easy to find a 7-6 or 8 footer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA Frog Man Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Also probably best to go with a fiberglass rod as most indie spinning rods won't be rated up to 1.5 ounces. Ugly sick I'd probably the way to go. That and a 5000 Sedona will put you right around $150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Addict Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 The point was for inexperienced fisherman...and cost probably...mostly meaning that spinning reels are fairly fool proof... you can pick up a Sedona or a sahara for less than 60$ if you keep your eyes out, much better than a comparable priced spin cast imo. As far as difficulty goes, my kids (started at age 3) have no problem casting a spinning reels, they actually found it easier than the spincast reels. I have fished with plenty of first timers, none of them had an issue with a spinning reel, it so basic. There are just more options if you go the spinning reel route and better quality for the money imo. But if you want a spincast, go for it, to each his own. I find them to be junk and more of a hassle to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Addict Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 While all comments are definitely valid, this one threw me a curve ball: It is not something I even thought about, but it opens up doors. With a spincast reel I can use existing rods I have in my lineup - Dobyns 736C (frog rod). I often use this as my travel swimbait rod, especially when there is little to no cargo room. Back on topic - I still would like to pickup a beefy spinning setup and it seems a Shimano Sedona is perfect. However, I am noticing that most spinning rods are around 7ft. I cannot find a decent one around 7'6 that has the capability of throwing a 1.5oz bait. I am only looking at TWH right now. The daiwa costals are good for the money, not sure what your budget it though. I believe the7'6" XH maxes out 2oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Ramen Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 While all comments are definitely valid, this one threw me a curve ball: It is not something I even thought about, but it opens up doors. With a spincast reel I can use existing rods I have in my lineup - Dobyns 736C (frog rod). I often use this as my travel swimbait rod, especially when there is little to no cargo room. Exactly; all you would need to buy is the reel. And, you wouldn't need to dedicate a combo to it, just swap the reel onto an existing rod when you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlant Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 you can pick up a Sedona or a sahara for less than 60$ if you keep your eyes out, much better than a comparable priced spin cast imo. As far as difficulty goes, my kids (started at age 3) have no problem casting a spinning reels, they actually found it easier than the spincast reels. I have fished with plenty of first timers, none of them had an issue with a spinning reel, it so basic. There are just more options if you go the spinning reel route and better quality for the money imo. But if you want a spincast, go for it, to each his own. I find them to be junk and more of a hassle to use. I'm pretty sure I said spinning reels are fool proof... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Addict Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I'm pretty sure I said spinning reels are fool proof... You quoted my question to top ramon which was asking him why he recommended a spin cast over a spinning reel. My explanation was supporting the spinning reel so when you responded to my question as to why a spin cast over a spinning reel, I read your response as if you were talking about a spin cast not a spinning reel. Just curious, what would a good spincast reel choice be that has a decent line capcity with line >=12# test, decent drag and capable of casting 1 1\2 oz baits? All the spin cast reels I have used in the past have broken after light use so I'd like to hear what you would recommend for a decent one. my wife prefers the spincast reels as that is what her pops tauight her on. After breaking multiple Daiwa gold cast, silver cast and a zebco omega, I stopped buying them and bought her a saharra instead. She still would rather fish with a spin cast though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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