webertime Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 So I am stepping up to the bigger end of swimbaits for this year. I have tons of smaller 6" baits and want to step up to the classic 8" Hudd. I realistically will not be using it much deeper than 12-14'. Would you go ROF 5 or ROF 12? I am aware of the differences in how they fall, etc., just not too sure which I should go with to start. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoso Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I would also include what type of bottom you are fishing. Weed, rock, wood, mud etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodgers762 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I would personally get the ROF 5 because you have the option of fishing it in shallow water as well or if there are bad weeds you can stay above them a little better. You can always add weight to make it sink faster if you need it to get down to the bottom faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaswimbaiter Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I would personally get the ROF 5 because you have the option of fishing it in shallow water as well or if there are bad weeds you can stay above them a little better. You can always add weight to make it sink faster if you need it to get down to the bottom faster. Very true. A little glue and a lead weight and you can have a ROF 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webertime Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 I would also include what type of bottom you are fishing. Weed, rock, wood, mud etc. Ahh good point. 90% will be the softer weedier bays of Lake Champlain, there will be some rocks but there will be weeds all over/around them. I was leaning towards the 5, thank all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodgers762 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 No worries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbasstv Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 +1 on rof5 maybe a rof-0 modified to a rof-2.5 would be key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodgers762 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 +1 on rof5 maybe a rof-0 modified to a rof-2.5 would be key That's basically what I do. I take a ROF 0 and add some nail weights on the bottom near the head to get a bait that will stay above all the nasty weeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Ramen Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Get a 5 and, if you want it to sink faster, just shove one of these up it's bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webertime Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Get a 5 and, if you want it to sink faster, just shove one of these up it's bum. [attachment=0]DSWeights600_6_3.jpg[/attachment] A "Sodelston" very interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoedd Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 +1 on rof5 maybe a rof-0 modified to a rof-2.5 would be key That's basically what I do. I take a ROF 0 and add some nail weights on the bottom near the head to get a bait that will stay above all the nasty weeds. +2 on this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceaser Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Get a 5 and, if you want it to sink faster, just shove one of these up it's bum. [attachment=0]DSWeights600_6_3.jpg[/attachment] hahaha be a nice guy and lube it first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassindon69 Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 I would also include what type of bottom you are fishing. Weed, rock, wood, mud etc. Ahh good point. 90% will be the softer weedier bays of Lake Champlain, there will be some rocks but there will be weeds all over/around them. I was leaning towards the 5, thank all From what little I can see on the maps I saw of Champlain it looks like you do have some deeper water up to 20 to 30+? Maybe more? idk , I couldn't find a good map really. So now I will ask , Why are you fishing shallow weeds? I would fish outer weed lines with ROF 5 and deeper water away from the weeds if I could and fish bottom contour out and away with a ROF 12 . Even when I fish lakes with weeds most times I casting out (like always) to get the big ones. It works for me at all lakes so far, weeds or not. Even worked at the only lake I tried out of state, 1st time ever at lake Dardanelle, Must be something to it, so I think. But if you will fish nothing but weeds a lot of the time a weedless hudd rof 5 would be better without the open hook, or Top hook Rising Son Get a lure retriever too , if you don't have one. It will save you hundreds + in baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webertime Posted December 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 I would also include what type of bottom you are fishing. Weed, rock, wood, mud etc. Ahh good point. 90% will be the softer weedier bays of Lake Champlain, there will be some rocks but there will be weeds all over/around them. I was leaning towards the 5, thank all From what little I can see on the maps I saw of Champlain it looks like you do have some deeper water up to 20 to 30+? Maybe more? idk , I couldn't find a good map really. So now I will ask , Why are you fishing shallow weeds? I would fish outer weed lines with ROF 5 and deeper water away from the weeds if I could and fish bottom contour out and away with a ROF 12 . Even when I fish lakes with weeds most times I casting out (like always) to get the big ones. It works for me at all lakes so far, weeds or not. Even worked at the only lake I tried out of state, 1st time ever at lake Dardanelle, Must be something to it, so I think. But if you will fish nothing but weeds a lot of the time a weedless hudd rof 5 would be better without the open hook, or Top hook Rising Son Get a lure retriever too , if you don't have one. It will save you hundreds + in baits. Champlain is the largest "non-great lake" in the country, it has depths approaching 400', it's roughly 7 times the surface area of Clear Lake. It's not going to produce Cali sized bass, but the numbers and quality are outstanding (87 Smallies one day last May, all between 2-5.5lbs). I'll be concentrating in the weedier shallows(out to about 12-15 feet) because on Champlain that's really where the BIG Largemouths are. If I go deeper than say 15 ft then it's mostly Smallies and Pike, while I have no doubt Pike would love an 8" Hudd, I have a hard time wrapping my head around a Smallie whacking an 8" Hudd or at least often enough to make it worth the time, and what few Largemouths that would be present would be outnumbered by Pike 10:1. AND this place is windy, rediculously windy (trees grow tipping to the north because of the nearly constant south winds. That being said with a boat out in the deeper water I'd be rocking around a lot and I think trying to fish a big bait slow and deep with the wind pushing me 1-2.5 mph and the bow going up and down ~2 feet, seems like a lot of agrivation. Your technique is what we do with Keitechs over here, it's killer. I'll be adding other sizes/baits in that size down the line, just wanted one to start. Thanks for the help guys! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassindon69 Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 400' sounds like home to me, so does the rest other than pike. However they wouldn't stop me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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