willlliw Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Over the summer I made myself a rat wakebait, the body was about 7 inches long and it killed it where I fished. Id like to make another one that will be more stable and consistant in action. I want to use 3 joints that don't have a huge range of motion because that created a good loud noise on my past one. From head to end of wooden section it had about a 90 degree turn with 3 joints. My old one fished well but it got beat up fairly quick and no longer swims correct. Does anyone have any baitmaking tips for Rats? CG_Fishes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willlliw Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 The original rat was circular in shape. i'm thinking of making it more retangular to keep it stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchris Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 so i make a lot of rats, round in shape to start out with then i flatten the bottom on the belt sander which helps a lot, i also use weighted hook hangers which help keep it stable. (weighted hook hangers are from lure parts online) the lip shape plays a big roll and the gap in the joint vertically i made a bunch of rats last season, almost all with a square lip, very stable, crankdown subsurface. i made a few with round lip and you get a lot of roll (think pb rat style swim) and one 3 piece with a coffin lip, which swims insane, stays super straight and only wakes, plus the noise is epic. made some bigger two piece with coffin lips and they swim awesome, nice knock and very stable another thing that plays a big factor is the joint construction, one screw eye on each side, gives more roll and wiggle, again pb ray style. a tighter single connection like a nez is more stable and has more side to side action and less roll. my two piece rats use one screw eye on each side and my bigger ones with the coffin lips use two on each side which makes them very stable ill post some pics of mine and some videos if they'll load Jinxd12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchris Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Some Pics of the 3 piece and the joint and lip, bait is crazy stable and makes a sick noise and more importantly gets chewed 253caster, BrierBob, Grizzn n bassin and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willlliw Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I also used a coffin lip, the bait was fairly stable and would crank down a bit but wasn't great at high speeds. I think ill try a flatter bottom on this bait too. I used a single joint similar to an MS slammer, which seemed to allow more rotation between joints, not sure it that helped the noise. Ill post some pictures of the joints and a video with the noise in it. I kind of BSed the first one and it still caught fish so I figured id spend a little more time on this one and save the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willlliw Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Not the greatest sound quality but you can kind of hear it here It was pretty janky, I rigged the hooks to the hook hangers on 10 pound breakaway line and the hooks were secured to the front of the bait with heavy braid. I want sure of the hook hangers would hold a large fish so it would breakaway from the bait on a hook set so there wasn't too much pressure on the wire hangers IMG_9457.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchris Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 swims nice man if you knock the edges off the lip it will make coffin style and will also add some stability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willlliw Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, chefchris said: swims nice man if you knock the edges off the lip it will make coffin style and will also add some stability Thanks for the information. I'll be putting the bait together soon, just need to find open water to test swim it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchris Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, willlliw said: Thanks for the information. I'll be putting the bait together soon, just need to find open water to test swim it. if you need some weighted hook hangers or some hardware send me a pm. i'm in RI so i feel your pain about open water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willlliw Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, chefchris said: if you need some weighted hook hangers or some hardware send me a pm. i'm in RI so i feel your pain about open water! Thank you very much for the help Crazy, 2 weeks ago my best lake had zero ice, now it has 6 inches of ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchris Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, willlliw said: Thank you very much for the help Crazy, 2 weeks ago my best lake had zero ice, now it has 6 inches of ice yeah man same, hoping one of the outflows at the reservoir is open so I can go swim some baits, supposed to be 45-50 here tomorrow and rain all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzn n bassin Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 18 hours ago, chefchris said: Those slots are super clean! I made a bunch of rats this summer and some wakes. I had a problem not being able to get those slots symmetrical Did you use a drill press? I was doing it will a drill then a dremel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchris Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 1:50 PM, Grizzn n bassin said: On 2/4/2021 at 7:03 PM, chefchris said: Those slots are super clean! I made a bunch of rats this summer and some wakes. I had a problem not being able to get those slots symmetrical Did you use a drill press? I was doing it will a drill then a dremel. Expand drill press with a forstner bit, then cleaned the edges with 80 grit then 220 Grizzn n bassin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzn n bassin Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 5:04 PM, chefchris said: drill press with a forstner bit, then cleaned the edges with 80 grit then 220 Thanks going to pick one up , that Dremel is risky for me. ruined way to many slots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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