kmooresd85 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 What all goes into tuning the 250? Is this something that can be done yourself? Been looking through the forums to see the process. Also can u add weights to sink faster and has anyone done this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hroth33 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 This should help. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10593 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbreakable_bassin Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 This should help. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10593 Much more than anyone on the internet knows of, much more than just weights, eyes, and hooks... only butch does the correct job. dont get me wrong my stock baits get bit too, its all situational and depends on the skill set you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willduhhbeast Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Im not doubting butch's skill level one bit. I believe he's a great guy and he's obviously a great stick. But tuning is just tuning. A saiko tuned bait swims in a certain way, but the stock bait also swims in a "certain way". Just like a bait tuned to run deep, instead of shallow runs in a "certain way". Don't get caught up too much in the "but its saiko tuned" conversation. I agree, its all situational. To answer your question about weights. You can add or take away weight to make it swim any way, and almost any depth you desire. I do know that its harder for me to make it swim well at deeper depths. I think the tuning is harder visually, and physically. A lot of tweaking can take place to make it do what you want. Its easily the most versatile glides I've used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmooresd85 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Im not doubting butch's skill level one bit. I believe he's a great guy and he's obviously a great stick. But tuning is just tuning. A saiko tuned bait swims in a certain way, but the stock bait also swims in a "certain way". Just like a bait tuned to run deep, instead of shallow runs in a "certain way". Don't get caught up too much in the "but its saiko tuned" conversation. I agree, its all situational. To answer your question about weights. You can add or take away weight to make it swim any way, and almost any depth you desire. I do know that its harder for me to make it swim well at deeper depths. I think the tuning is harder visually, and physically. A lot of tweaking can take place to make it do what you want. Its easily the most versatile glides I've used. Ok. Thanks for the info. Im mostly just looking to get it down a little further than it does stock. I'll play with the weight some and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbreakable_bassin Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Im not doubting butch's skill level one bit. I believe he's a great guy and he's obviously a great stick. But tuning is just tuning. A saiko tuned bait swims in a certain way, but the stock bait also swims in a "certain way". Just like a bait tuned to run deep, instead of shallow runs in a "certain way". Don't get caught up too much in the "but its saiko tuned" conversation. I agree, its all situational. To answer your question about weights. You can add or take away weight to make it swim any way, and almost any depth you desire. I do know that its harder for me to make it swim well at deeper depths. I think the tuning is harder visually, and physically. A lot of tweaking can take place to make it do what you want. Its easily the most versatile glides I've used. I know butch personally. Yes saiko tuning is only done by him. There's quite a few things done that other guys are not doing with their tune jobs or will ever know of. I will tell you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilog Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Besides the weights, hooks, and eyes, I believe Butch also clear coats the foil so it lasts longer. But I don't know him personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadinesmom Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Im not doubting butch's skill level one bit. I believe he's a great guy and he's obviously a great stick. But tuning is just tuning. A saiko tuned bait swims in a certain way, but the stock bait also swims in a "certain way". Just like a bait tuned to run deep, instead of shallow runs in a "certain way". Don't get caught up too much in the "but its saiko tuned" conversation. I agree, its all situational. To answer your question about weights. You can add or take away weight to make it swim any way, and almost any depth you desire. I do know that its harder for me to make it swim well at deeper depths. I think the tuning is harder visually, and physically. A lot of tweaking can take place to make it do what you want. Its easily the most versatile glides I've used. I know butch personally. Yes saiko tuning is only done by him. There's quite a few things done that other guys are not doing with their tune jobs or will ever know of. I will tell you that. "or will ever know of?" I don't believe that for a minute. pretty sure it would be as simple as dissecting a saiko tuned bait. lots of things have been reverse engineered in this world, a saiko tune is probably not near the top on the list of complexity. butch is legit but i can't imagine his tune jobs being so in depth that he does things to the baits that no one will ever discover... can't figure out a way to phrase that without sounding like a jerk so i guess i'll just sound like a jerk. not my intention though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestabe101 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 But you'll never know the ingredients of the magic dust he sprinkles on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDBEAD Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^ Do you want to cut apart a 200 dollar bait (obviously retail, not current price) to find out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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