Dylan Colman Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I was just wondering everyone's opinion on the Deps Bullshooter weather to keep the stock treble hooks with feathers or switch them out for hooks without feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcolo4sho Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I kept the stock feather hooks on mine and have had no issues. Only thrown it once though so maybe my opinion isn't the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Colman Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Just wondering if there are any advantages of having the feathers on the hooks? Or are they just on there for show?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucid_Dreams23 Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 They help the hooks float and also act as camouflage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaiwaGuy Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Does anyone have any opinions on if this is better than a gantarel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaiwaGuy Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Also is the bullshooter a lipless bulldoze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeshark Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Its a pretty different bait than the gantarel. The gantarel has multiple line ties depending on what you want to do with the bait. The Bull shooter, and bull shooter 160 are both larger than the gantarel by a good margin. Feathered hooks are just a preference. Fish it and see if you like it. Im a big fan of the bull shooter 160. I took the lip weight out of both of the ones I own, and love the way they suspend in colder water. Right now in the low 50's its a super slow sink, but in the summer it will be a heaver floater, meaning you can crank the bull shooter down slighty. Over all a great bait. Seems like a lot of people prefer the 160 size over the original. The gantarel is great too, just smaller, more affordable, has worse stock hooks, and a jointed tail, which changes the swim a little. Id say they are all worth owning. The bull dozer is just a floating wakebait version of the bullshooter. Hope that helps Bsmatko63, Zack Carscaddon, chevro1et and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaiwaGuy Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Its a pretty different bait than the gantarel. The gantarel has multiple line ties depending on what you want to do with the bait. The Bull shooter, and bull shooter 160 are both larger than the gantarel by a good margin. Feathered hooks are just a preference. Fish it and see if you like it. Im a big fan of the bull shooter 160. I took the lip weight out of both of the ones I own, and love the way they suspend in colder water. Right now in the low 50's its a super slow sink, but in the summer it will be a heaver floater, meaning you can crank the bull shooter down slighty. Over all a great bait. Seems like a lot of people prefer the 160 size over the original. The gantarel is great too, just smaller, more affordable, has worse stock hooks, and a jointed tail, which changes the swim a little. Id say they are all worth owning. The bull dozer is just a floating wakebait version of the bullshooter. Hope that helps Great Break Down bud. Thats exactly what I was looking for. teebeej and Lakeshark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE of Bass Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I just got a Bullshooter from the Black Market, cant wait to use it in the spring. I want a Dozer, but I've never seen one for sale/in stock. I usually fish in shallow water, so I prefer topwaters so I don't lose expensive sinkers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceaser Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Temperature and density share an inverse relationship. As temperature increases, the space between water molecules increases—also known as density, which therefore decreases. If the temperature of water decreases its density increases, but only to a point. At a temperature of 4°C pure water reaches its maximum or peak density, cooled further it expands and becomes less dense than the surrounding water which is why when water freezes at 0°C it floats. Its a pretty different bait than the gantarel. The gantarel has multiple line ties depending on what you want to do with the bait. The Bull shooter, and bull shooter 160 are both larger than the gantarel by a good margin. Feathered hooks are just a preference. Fish it and see if you like it. Im a big fan of the bull shooter 160. I took the lip weight out of both of the ones I own, and love the way they suspend in colder water. Right now in the low 50's its a super slow sink, but in the summer it will be a heaver floater, meaning you can crank the bull shooter down slighty. Over all a great bait. Seems like a lot of people prefer the 160 size over the original. The gantarel is great too, just smaller, more affordable, has worse stock hooks, and a jointed tail, which changes the swim a little. Id say they are all worth owning. The bull dozer is just a floating wakebait version of the bullshooter. Hope that helps The density of water decreases as the water temperature increases:Temperature C Density (g/ml)10 0.9997320 0.9982330 0.9956740 0.9922450 0.98807A cursory search resulted in an equation relating weight of a solid in a fluid (water) to fluid density:Weight of a solid in a fluid = weight of the solid in vacuum - (volume of the solid X density of the fluid)As water temperature decreases, its density increases. Consequently, the weight of any solid in water would decrease as water temperature decreases. Consequently, sink rate would decrease in colder water. Edited December 23, 2015 by Ceaser Nateraz, teebeej and BigSlant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceaser Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I see this misconception in alot of posts. In the winter your baits sink SLOWER due to increased water density. As water temp increases and density decreases you will see an increase in the sink rate, it will fall faster. DotyBass, Lakeshark, BigSlant and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassin8r Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 In other words it takes longer to get through thick (dense/cold) water than thin (less dense/warm) water. So the same bait sinks slower or not at all when the water gets colder, until the water reaches its most dense at 39 degrees Fahrenheit. Lakeshark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlant Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Temperature and density share an inverse relationship. As temperature increases, the space between water molecules increases—also known as density, which therefore decreases. If the temperature of water decreases its density increases, but only to a point. At a temperature of 4°C pure water reaches its maximum or peak density, cooled further it expands and becomes less dense than the surrounding water which is why when water freezes at 0°C it floats. The density of water decreases as the water temperature increases: Temperature C Density (g/ml) 10 0.99973 20 0.99823 30 0.99567 40 0.99224 50 0.98807 A cursory search resulted in an equation relating weight of a solid in a fluid (water) to fluid density: Weight of a solid in a fluid = weight of the solid in vacuum - (volume of the solid X density of the fluid) As water temperature decreases, its density increases. Consequently, the weight of any solid in water would decrease as water temperature decreases. Consequently, sink rate would decrease in colder water. That's F'n awesome...you got served Lakeshark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeshark Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Busting put some science! Im going off personal experience, I just know that when I was fishing the shooter without the weight in, in the summer it was slow floating and as the water got colder, the bait became a super slow sink. It could be cracked, but I've never seen it visibly have water inside of it. And I also own two bull shooters, and have identical experiences. I assumed this info, because the megabass I slide has the same properties. In the I slides description, it states that the bait is a floater at higher/warmer temperatures, but becomes a suspender/slow sink in colder water temps. Edited December 24, 2015 by Lakeshark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassin8r Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Busting put some science! Im going off personal experience, I just know that when I was fishing the shooter without the weight in, in the summer it was slow floating and as the water got colder, the bait became a super slow sink. It could be cracked, but I've never seen it visibly have water inside of it. And I also own two bull shooters, and have identical experiences. I assumed this info, because the megabass I slide has the same properties. In the I slides description, it states that the bait is a floater at higher/warmer temperatures, but becomes a suspender/slow sink in colder water temps. Interesting, the observations appear to support the opposite of the theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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