Az_urban_swimbaiter Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Okay so I own two Bbz rats . I have gotten at least 10-15 complete blow-ups on it . Not Any hookups . This Is really getting annoying . Ik it's probably something I'm doing ( or not doing ) to be able to hookup . I've tried using stock tail and a zoom trick worm in hopes to see a difference. No difference . Can someone please give me a idea on how to start hooking up with these fish. Thanks su. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedonnguyen Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 wait til you feel the weight of the fish...at least thats what i do when fishing rats and other topwaters...i've had fish bump a lure before fully taking the bait and i've also had them devour the bait biggfeast, bassfiend72, johnnnydukess and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyW Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 wait til you feel the weight of the fish...at least thats what i do when fishing rats and other topwaters...i've had fish bump a lure before fully taking the bait and i've also had them devour the baitwhat he said is key (tail is not the problem at all thats all in the anglers head) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Az_urban_swimbaiter Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyW Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) i will go out this sunday and try and get some video of all the wrong things not to do my 14 year old makes I call him a farmer ( he's stubborn as all hell ) He dumps a pig at least once every weekend , this kid has had a shot at breaking his pb every week for last 4 weeks stright . But like i tell him I sure hope you are learning from this (his knots are bad really bad ) check my instagram and you will see him in the water on a school day lol getting his go to rat back (dont have to follow ) Edited June 19, 2015 by JeremyW bassfiend72 and Az_urban_swimbaiter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasqwatch01 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Its real easy for your excitement to take over when fishing with the rat, especially when you throw it for a while before getting a bite....i try an leave a lil slack in the line so it buys me time to reel up the slack then set the hook... Other wise i get too excited an set the hook rightaway and loose it lol JeremyW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedonnguyen Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Almost like frog fishing in the sense that you wait to feel their weight, but easier. I suck at frog fishing haha basskickinrednick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Az_urban_swimbaiter Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 i will go out this sunday and try and get some video of all the wrong things not to do my 14 year old makes I call him a farmer ( he's stubborn as all hell ) He dumps a pig at least once every weekend , this kid has had a shot at breaking his pb every week for last 4 weeks stright . But like i tell him I sure hope you are learning from this (his knots are bad really bad ) check my instagram and you will see him in the water on a school day lol getting his go to rat back (dont have to follow ) I'm following already but must missed that rat rescue ..! I'm Derek_richards on Instagram ( just saying ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfiend72 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I have never missed a rat fish while not paying attention. If im looking instead of hearing the bait go down I miss everyone of them. I almost look at something else on purpose. Crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ong Jim Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 ^^What he said. But key to top water is to wait until you feel it. Bass is a tab bit easier, stripers are even worse. These days, i dont even set until it yanks the rod almost out of my hands, and hook ups have improved tremendously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyW Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 cool cool derek ,sorry im bad with names lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelcronje Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Probably a silly question for the more experienced guys out there. I've heard 20lb fluoro is the way to go for swimbaits, but will it be suitable for the rats too? Or do you have separate rigs for the topwaters with braid? Az_urban_swimbaiter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Az_urban_swimbaiter Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Probably a silly question for the more experienced guys out there. I've heard 20lb fluoro is the way to go for swimbaits, but will it be suitable for the rats too? Or do you have separate rigs for the topwaters with braid? Use 25lb p-line pf best swimbait line on the market . For essentially any swimbait application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelcronje Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Use 25lb p-line pf best swimbait line on the market . For essentially any swimbait application. And for rats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopdaloop Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) Crushed them on the rat last night, from 10pm to 1am. Caught 6 on the rat before I switched up baits. I used 25lb pline cxx. Zero hook up issues, gotta let them take it. I try and fish with my rod slightly out of position when fishing the rat, so that extra split second it takes to set the hook is often how long I need to wait. When I saw out of position, I mean the butt of the rod isn't tucked and ready to set the hook under my elbow, its away from my body. Edited June 20, 2015 by scoopdaloop bassfiend72 and jcolo4sho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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