bassturds Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 Thinking about grabbing one! Heard they are a killer New England bait. Any pros and cons or reviews? Opposum or mole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevro1et Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 @chefchris can provide the lowdown on the CL8s for sure. bassturds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchris Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 Baby possum all the way if you’re set up can handle it. Weighs 4.5oz and is one of the bigger rats around. It has a unique “squeak” from the joint hardware and reverse cut. a lot of people complain that the bait has a lot of “drag” and feels heavier than it is. I don’t feel that way. the bait is pretty much a New England staple (or it was at one point) the crankdown version was a dsouth idea and that bait also gets chewed his wake model wakes and maybe gets down 2’ on a faster start up. The crankdown runs 3-4’ but he also makes an extra deep that gets down to 8’ chevro1et, Jim137a, bassturds and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassturds Posted December 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 7 hours ago, chefchris said: Baby possum all the way if you’re set up can handle it. Weighs 4.5oz and is one of the bigger rats around. It has a unique “squeak” from the joint hardware and reverse cut. a lot of people complain that the bait has a lot of “drag” and feels heavier than it is. I don’t feel that way. the bait is pretty much a New England staple (or it was at one point) the crankdown version was a dsouth idea and that bait also gets chewed his wake model wakes and maybe gets down 2’ on a faster start up. The crankdown runs 3-4’ but he also makes an extra deep that gets down to 8’ Thanks bud. Why do you think it gets chewed so well so well. A cranking rat. That’s something you don’t see. Which is probably why it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary m Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, bassturds said: Thanks bud. Why do you think it gets chewed so well so well. A cranking rat. That’s something you don’t see. Which is probably why it works. toxic mink cranks down very well cant even begin to tell you how many big fish eat it I can get it down about 4 feet bassturds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeyriver Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, bassturds said: Thanks bud. Why do you think it gets chewed so well so well. A cranking rat. That’s something you don’t see. Which is probably why it works. I live in Arkansas, so my 2 cents may not be as applicable to your waters. The animals that swim around here (rats, nutrea, muskrat, etc) if you chase them in your boat or kayak they dive when you get close. I think this is common for animals evading a predator. If you pay attention to bass behavior, when something flees or changes course quickly, it can create a reaction strike. I think the cranking of rat baits can imitate the fleeing animals well and get you strikes. As to the Cl8, the one I had seemed to be a more subtle rat. There are some rats that are much wider and noisy. I use to follow the theory that loud and noisy top water was the way to go. This was because I wanted to imitate an animal that was struggling in the water. The more time I spend on the water the more I just see animals swimming around regularly and not struggling at all. I think I will personally pick up another baby possum in the spring to imitate a more subtle swimming animal. IDK if any of this helps lol FishDr, CollinVo, Jim137a and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEbucketmouth19 Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 Definitely try one they're cool baits. I'd go with the baby possum. I had a good stretch last fall with the cranking version. It's a big bait for sure. I throw it on my 867 and it is right in the sweet spot of that rod. All my bites were with the crankdown. Once the weeds started dying off and they pulled to wood I had good success cranking deeper laydowns with it. Like @chefchris said the waking version will still crankdown but only like 2ft. Probably better for fishing over weedbeds. I don't think it has "too much" drag in the water if you're cranking it, but if you're fishing from a kayak or something it will tow you around a bit. bassturds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossypumpkin Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 Ya, don’t get the full size unless you have an 867 or 908 lol. It’s a 7.5oz bait bassturds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG_Fishes Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 I don't have any experience with his big stuff but the voles are killer smallmouth baits. I love fishing mine on my local rivers bassturds and KeepinItReelFishing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassturds Posted December 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Whiskeyriver said: I live in Arkansas, so my 2 cents may not be as applicable to your waters. The animals that swim around here (rats, nutrea, muskrat, etc) if you chase them in your boat or kayak they dive when you get close. I think this is common for animals evading a predator. If you pay attention to bass behavior, when something flees or changes course quickly, it can create a reaction strike. I think the cranking of rat baits can imitate the fleeing animals well and get you strikes. As to the Cl8, the one I had seemed to be a more subtle rat. There are some rats that are much wider and noisy. I use to follow the theory that loud and noisy top water was the way to go. This was because I wanted to imitate an animal that was struggling in the water. The more time I spend on the water the more I just see animals swimming around regularly and not struggling at all. I think I will personally pick up another baby possum in the spring to imitate a more subtle swimming animal. IDK if any of this helps lol Yea that’s a good point, we got muskrats and. Beavers. I had a brain fart lol! Whiskeyriver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
119bowhunter Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 Check out Toxic Baits “Rat Theory” video on YouTube, good stuff bassturds and yev14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppabass Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) The baby possum is an intimidating bait. It's pretty big and needs a rig committed to it. Unlike many sbs, the big mamas dont do a slurp but just try kill it. Most hits are memorable. Chef Chris mentioned the squeal that often develops when the hinge ages. They should copyright that or something. It can develop the squeal your best buzzbait has. And grab a black spike it marker to color in chinks in the armour, usually on the belly. Adds great natural flash that is not black when applied but more of a natural brown. Edited December 27, 2021 by bigpoppabass bassturds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkel83 Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 5.5lbs on the traveling possum earlier in the year. Needless to say, I now own one. My only insight (considering I haven’t fish it a ton) is it’s a very unique rat. Hopefully that equates to more bites Jim137a and bassturds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc626 Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Fish Dr. over the years has great post of the possum baits. bassturds, FishDr and yev14 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishDr Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/29/2021 at 1:31 PM, marc626 said: Fish Dr. over the years has great post of the possum baits. I give credit to the New England crew like who were posting some impressive fish for encouraging me to give them a go. bassturds and yev14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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