Cookingandfishing Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 I've read the other thread on short combat-style SB rods, very much interested in the Expride 66XH, though a couple of posters said it wasn't quite parabolic enough for treble baits. I'm also looking at the Daiwa Black Label LG 6111H+FB-SB, which at 6'11 seems a more reasonable length than 6'6 or even shorter...does anyone have experience with this rod? Aiming to throw 1.5oz up to 4.5oz, rod is rated to 5oz, so on paper it looks doable. Any other suggestions on a sub 7 foot rod that will fish a K9 comfortably I'm all ears. Jon P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevro1et Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 I mean, there's the Deps Huge Custom series rods, but the price tags are not forgiving. Jon P and Cookingandfishing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jscarbr Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Im a huge fan of the Toxic Sniper Swim by Irod. Never been big on Irods, but this rod is an exception. basskickinrednick, Ceaser, Cookingandfishing and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-20 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) Shimano Bantam 168XH. Totally awesome rod. Have an Antares MD on it and fish everything from a TK to a Phoney Shad on it. Whoever came up with this rod should design a slightly heavier 7'3 rod for 2-8 oz baits. Same kind of design and bend. Edited February 2 by 5-20 Cookingandfishing, Hmoob and maine y yak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon P Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 I've been ogling the Valkyrie VKC66XH that someone had mentioned in another thread. From what I hear it has a very parabolic load up for a short rod making it more suitable for fishing big hard baits. It also has similar stats to the short rod I use right now, the legit design WSC65XXH. I love that rod and I still contend that it's the most fun rod I own, but the rod is a bit on the fast side for a hard bait rod so I use soft mono to compensate for the action and a fast reel to pick up as much line as possible. You still get relatively poor hooksets outside of thirty meters and if you hook a fish at the end of a long cast the success rate of actually landing the fish is somewhat poor since the combination of short and fast action isn't a great mix for fighting fish. Thankfully most of the fishing I do with this rod is in the 5-10 meter range where the actual fight is pretty brief and you can just horse the fish to the net. MountainMan83 and Cookingandfishing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookingandfishing Posted February 2 Author Report Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, Jon P said: the legit design WSC65XXH. I love that rod and I still contend that it's the most fun rod I own, but the rod is a bit on the fast side for a hard bait rod so I use soft mono to compensate for the action and a fast reel to pick up as much line as possible. You still get relatively poor hooksets outside of thirty meters and if you hook a fish at the end of a long cast the success rate of actually landing the fish is somewhat poor since the combination of short and fast action isn't a great mix for fighting fish. Yeah that's why I figure a long short rod at 6'11/7' might be what I'm looking for - just a few extra inches of taper to play around with. I'm probably going to get that BLX LG rod and I'll report back after spending some time on it. Jon P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew03cmc Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 I've got a Major Craft Benkei 6'8 BB rod that I love. I'm going to be grabbing another reel for it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabamaswimbait Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Sounds like the Sniper Swim is what you are looking for maine y yak and Ceaser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LureFlyingAcrossThePond Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 On 2/1/2024 at 8:48 PM, 5-20 said: Shimano Bantam 168XH. Totally awesome rod. Have an Antares MD on it and fish everything from a TK to a Phoney Shad on it. Whoever came up with this rod should design a slightly heavier 7'3 rod for 2-8 oz baits. Same kind of design and bend. Handle length on the 68 bantam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-20 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 59 minutes ago, LureFlyingAcrossThePond said: Handle length on the 68 bantam? LureFlyingAcrossThePond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean k Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 64 xxh legit design rod. Been my bank beater for 2 years now and love. Biggest catch has been 7 lbs and was a great fight. Only lost 2 fish I can remember with this rod. manansalsa, MountainMan83 and Jzxmnky 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumoNinja Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 I loved long rods and long handles since I started swimbaiting. Was mainly shore banging for 5+ yrs but damn, now I'm on a kayak, man....the long handles are now a hindrance a lot of times. Sucks because I feel like I dialed in my setups for all my different baits. maine y yak, basskickinrednick and danthefisherman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LureFlyingAcrossThePond Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Can someone guide me in the direction of a shorter rod for 2-3 oz treble baits with 14-15 inch handle I will also be throwing 68 special huds so it has to be stout enough to set the hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurdaJ Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 55 minutes ago, SumoNinja said: I loved long rods and long handles since I started swimbaiting. Was mainly shore banging for 5+ yrs but damn, now I'm on a kayak, man....the long handles are now a hindrance a lot of times. Sucks because I feel like I dialed in my setups for all my different baits. What issues are you running into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumoNinja Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MurdaJ said: What issues are you running into? Long handles get in the way. They bump into the seat or into my side and thigh lol. When standing it's fine. It's when sitting and casting around that it feels like a shorter rod and handle would ge better. Standing is an issue because of drifting so u can't do it long without getting out of position. I don't have a spot lock motor or anything so u gotta stay seated to constantly adjust the rudder, pedal backwards or forward and what not. Because retrieving a bait will pull your nose toward the bait and pull the whole kayak toward the bait. Especially a lipped bait. Edited February 27 by SumoNinja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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